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 Post subject: Re: The official "I want an AR-15" thread....
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:27 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: The official "I want an AR-15" thread....
PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:04 pm 
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You end up with a gun that is less accurate because of the piston and less reliable because they implemented the piston poorly.

The piston has no bearing on the accuracy of the weapon. There is a slight increase in felt recoil since the piston is in direct contact with the carrier. But the AR15 has very little recoil to start with. Both in the Military Police and the Infantry, I have seen plenty of M16s choke because of all the carbon inside the carrier. You get so much crud built up that the bolt does not go fully into battery. I know that with proper maintenance it isn't a problem but a lot of people are not as anal as I am about PMCS.

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 Post subject: Re: The official "I want an AR-15" thread....
PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:12 pm 
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You end up with a gun that is less accurate because of the piston and less reliable because they implemented the piston poorly.
The piston has no bearing on the accuracy of the weapon. There is a slight increase in felt recoil since the piston is in direct contact with the carrier. But the AR15 has very little recoil to start with. Both in the Military Police and the Infantry, I have seen plenty of M16s choke because of all the carbon inside the carrier. You get so much crud built up that the bolt does not go fully into battery. I know that with proper maintenance it isn't a problem but a lot of people are not as anal as I am about PMCS.
Actually it has a large effect on the accuracy of the weapon. Most piston uppers shoot groups twice the size of a DI upper. In a DI upper there are essentially no moving parts attached to the barrel. In a piston upper, you have pistons and springs which create additional forces and vibrations on the barrel before the bullet leaves the gun. This reduces accuracy. There is a reason standard DI ARs often shoot very small groups compared to other service rifles and it isn't just the stupid bull barrels every manufacturer throws on them.

The real problem with most of the piston kits is that they try to retain the standard front sight block so you have a drop in unit. That won't work. The gas tube has a bend it it because the port coming out of the front sight block is lower than the hole through the upper receiver to the gas key on the carrier. This bend doesn't matter with DI because you have a pulse of gas moving down the tube. Replace that gas with solid parts and any assembly will see bending moments that tend to bind a piston. You need to replace the front sight block with a redesigned unit so the forces directly oppose each other in a straight line. HK did this with the 416 and I'm sure other manufacturers have too.

I've never seen someone crud up their AR with carbon, but I'm sure you could do it. I imagine it is a lot more difficult to do with a semi-auto AR than a select-fire M-16 though.

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 Post subject: Re: The official "I want an AR-15" thread....
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I should have my kit by tomorrow, got it from a local company (local from my native land) they are a Olympic arms dealer, I got a SS 16in it looks blued but it is a carbon finish. I got a double star lower for 109 bucks at shooters its nice and has a nice finish.

this will be the 2nd kit from them the first one is back home with my dad.



will post pictures of the build and finished product.

the company is J&S out of Olympia, WA and probably some of the best prices for kits. SS upgrade for only 30 bucks!

http://jsgunparts.com/



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little blurry.

Like I said in my OC log the guy said he would throw a rear sight in for me but didnt...
quick order to cheaper than dirt will fix that.

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 Post subject: Re: The official "I want an AR-15" thread....
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Let us know which sight and how you like it. I have a detachable carry handle on mine right now, but I want to switch to optics or a red-dot with a BUIS.

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im looking at getting one off of cheaper than dirt here next pay check, will give a report on it when I have it. I will also take some better pictures with it.

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looks a little off with just the rails. they were super cheap for both of them. there not cheap plastic either. mounting was difficult though as the holes didn't line up quite right! could either by my hand guard or could be the holes not being measured correctly either way there nice. my hand guards don't have metal heat guards either..... it is a SS and reallllyyyy heavy under but still new seeing it without them.
I guess I could move the lower rail back so they are even.
or just take the top one off because I have no idea what to put on it...

The rear sight was 29 bucks and is nice, looks great. will probably go shoot this week if the baby isnt out by then to make sure everything is on straight, just waiting for the front grip to come and ill be set... for a while. I do want to sew a tactical sling out of some OD green 1in tubular webbing though.

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Hows that rear sight working out for you? I'm thinking about picking something like that up so I can drop a red-dot on my AR.

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