yeah, mainly that was meant to be tongue in cheek, but also not at the same time. if you follow the way the a2a hate speech goes, if we can save / prevent just one crime.
idk how many correction officers there are in georgia, but 46, in one day. hmmm, i think that slightly exceeds the bad apple thing and becomes an orchard. (yea it was a 2 year investigation).
i believe all carve outs, leosa and all others at the state and local levels, should be ended. they are attempts buy favor in political support by politicians on both sides of the 2a issues, though most notably the antis who love to say... look the leo community, agrees with us.
this actually was part of the discussion on the MD-ar-hicap case. the 4th district and lower courts do not feel it to be a violation of the 14th amendment. that said, one justice on the 4th ruling considered it a possible violation, but was in the minority, and therefore it was not a problem. people being people, would indicate otherwise, and attributing special abilities to any leo... well a little google proves that leo's, retired or active, are people and prone to criminal tendencies, just like the general public.
i think ALL LAW ABIDING citizens should have the national carry, without fee or charge, no infringents, open or concealed. OUR rights do not, and should not, end at state lines. NJ/MD/NY/CA, ETC. anyone receiving special consideration has no reason to support the right for all. they may, but they also may not. again, people are people.
that said, i am curious, and hopefully this becomes a major point of discussion in this article is that drugs and cell phones, and various other contraband are available in prison.
how does contraband get in? the answer is seems obvious. someone smuggles it in. who? in the context of a2a discussions, keeping guns out of the hands of criminal, the fact that incarcerated individual can get pot and cell phones represents quite the pickle. no?
the interesting part of the article notes that SOME of the 46 were the watchers watchers. members of the anti-contraband crew, iirc, COBRA was the name of the group.
where you sit, and with what you see, what are you seeing in your delaware facility?
in googling, i found 1 article related specifically to delaware. iirs it was '14-15 timeframe.
are there things that don't make the NewsUrinal? that common folks aren't aware of?
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/new ... /25953879/
also of interest in the article, the prison guards were wearing their uniforms/badges and giving cover to drug deals outside of the prison. a protection scheme.
yeah, i apologize for asking questions that you, as an active employee, may not be able to answer, but cases like that make a person, an outsider, wonder.
in the context of the other thread that has people saying that prison was bad... i've always felt i was too pretty for prison (sarcasm). i also wouldn't disagree with the statement. but there are at least 46 people in georgia that didn't think it was bad enough to want to avoid being on the wrong side of the bars.
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As I understand things, prison guards are one of the special ones. They qualify for LEOSA when active or retired. 46!!!! Arrested in one day!!! Should be enough to reconsider LEOSA entirety.
I call BS on this sentiment. There are over 400,000 of US nation wide and the vast majority are honest, hard working individuals who do a job most people cannot handle. There are bad apples in every profession. I applaud the FBI for weeding out the dirty officers because these guys make my job more difficult and put me in danger. As a correctional officer I am locked in with 1100 felons, many violent, on a day to day basis with not much more than pepper spray and a radio for back-up. Virtually every officer I know has had at least one offender make the statement "Wait until I see you on the street." Most of the time that anger blows over but you never really know. I know officers who have had contracts put on them because they are effective in their duties. I do not have police authority off duty but I do have LEOSA which allows me to carry off duty. For what it is worth, I open carry more than I conceal carry. I see ex-offenders on the street on a regular basis but so far I have not had a bad encounter. I like to think that is because of the way I carry myself on duty. The odds of having a bad encounter with an ex-offender are not in my favor. I have been a correctional officer for 34 years. 16 of the 21 years I served in the Army was as a correctional officer and the other 18 years are with the state. I have earned the right to be a Law Enforcement Officer and I will not allow a few criminals masquerading as C/O's to diminish what I have accomplished.
