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 #84543  by David
 
Seems Beau can't decide if he's the AG or a legislator.

From the Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... story.html

WILMINGTON, Del. — Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden proposed legislation Monday aimed at keeping people considered a danger to themselves or others from getting their hands on guns.

The bill, which Biden called a response to mass shootings in the U.S. by people with known mental health problems, expands the ability of authorities in Delaware to prohibit people with mental health issues from having access to guns.

Under current law, a person who has been committed to a hospital or mental health institution for a mental disorder can be prohibited from possessing a gun.

“The mental health category is too narrow. It needs to be expanded,” Biden said.

The legislation proposed Monday would expand the mental health prohibition against possessing guns to include individuals deemed to be a danger to themselves or others. Criminal defendants who have been found guilty but mentally ill, not guilty by reason of insanity, or incompetent to stand trial also would be prohibited from having guns.

The bill requires mental health providers, including licensed school counselors, to call police if they believe a person poses a danger to himself or others. Police would investigate and would refer the case to the state Department of Justice if they believe the person shouldn’t have access to a gun.

The DOJ could then ask a judge to prohibit the person from owning or possessing a gun. The judge also could order the seizure of any guns that the person owns. In the case of a troubled child, authorities could seize any guns owned by a parent or guardian with whom the child is living.

Biden and other proponents said the legislation balances the rights of mental health patients with public safety.

“Just seeking mental health treatment does not prohibit you from owning or possessing a gun under current law or this legislation,” said Biden, adding that the bill was a “practical, commonsense approach” to reducing gun violence, including suicides.

Rep. Michael Barbieri, a Newark Democrat and licensed social worker who is co-sponsoring the legislation, said that if the bill prevents just one person from killing himself or herself, or another person, he would feel that he’s done his job.

Republican House Minority Whip Deborah Hudson, R-Wilmington, who supports the bill, said the mental health aspect of gun violence has been suppressed “long enough.”

“It’s the person who commits the crime, not the weapon,” she said.

The legislation is tied to a broader package of gun-control measures proposed by Biden and Democratic Gov. Jack Markell in the wake of the December school shooting in Connecticut.

Lawmakers last week gave final approval to a bill expanding criminal background checks on gun purchases in Delaware to include most transactions between private sellers and buyers.

Markell also is pushing for bans on the sale of high-capacity magazines and military-style assault-type weapons and new restrictions on guns near schools.
 #84550  by George
 
this is f***ing scary!!!!

" In the case of a troubled child, authorities could seize any guns owned by a parent or guardian with whom the child is living."
 #84551  by Amy Blackthorn
 
George wrote:this is f***ing scary!!!!

" In the case of a troubled child, authorities could seize any guns owned by a parent or guardian with whom the child is living."
+100
 #84556  by pick_six
 
Using the same logic, when are they outlawing cars, alcohol, doctors and all the other things that take more then one life?

I sit 2000+ miles from delaware and wonder where all these lib politicians came from.

I am ashamed of the state where I was born and raised, and the elected official that represent it.

The events of the Boston marathon prove that a person intent on killing can and will find a way, as criminals will. Guns, knives, pressure cookers, etc.

The idiotocracy of some folks is amazing, and the fact that people elect them is even more amazing.
 #84557  by GreaseMonkey
 
Wow... This is ridiculous... And the worst part is, most people will blindly support this legislation until the thugs are knocking on their door because the school therapist doesn't like the fact that "Little Johnny" is into black metal... Say goodbye to your hunting guns, Dad... :banghead:
 #84562  by Mr.Skellington
 
George wrote:this is f***ing scary!!!!

" In the case of a troubled child, authorities could seize any guns owned by a parent or guardian with whom the child is living."
Very indeed!

With everything about the health care field morphing into a CYA (cover your ass) style of care tying your 2A rights to the whims of someone as low on the food chain as a social worker (no degree only a certificate education required), school counselors (who work for the state feeding children into CPS's scams of counseling services) and people who are as ignorant to guns as those writing this BS.

This also raises the question of what doctor who spent a fortune in education costs is going to risk everything he has and stands to ever gain through liability lawsuits when he can simply CYA and screw you out of your rights on the 0.0000001% off chance that someone might "go postal"?

The abuses of this can be very far reaching and can expand as fast as junk diagnosis's can be invented or misapplied. Heck during the time it takes for a temporary diagnosis or a false diagnosis to be refuted your arms could be burned by DPS thanks to other legislation.
 #84563  by Mr.Skellington
 
David wrote:Seems Beau can't decide if he's the AG or a legislator.
He does an equally poor job with either. I especially love the way his prosecution rate for crimes such as straw purchases/ fraudulent information on background checks to buy firearms is 1% in effect offering no deterrence or penalty for this action and by extension allowing criminals to boldly walk free to create more problems. Then he has the balls to offer more legislation which chip away at the rights of the law abiding under the guise of fixing a problem he already has the ability to go after.

Delaware deserves better, give Beau the boot!
 #84601  by Big Dave
 
Mr.Skellington wrote:
David wrote:Seems Beau can't decide if he's the AG or a legislator.
He does an equally poor job with either. ...

Delaware deserves better, give Beau the boot!
We need to dump :toilet: this clown in the next election and make him go out and get a real job.
 #84617  by stephpd
 
Next up would be the list of medications that get you, and everybody in the house, or comes to visit, banned for life from ever owning a firearm. (Even if you barely know the person.)

Then just keep adding to the list.

The tyranny has only just begun.